Council of Chief Designers. Domestic weapons and military equipment
3rd site of the 15th Central Research Institute of Engineering Troops in Nakhabino. I once served on it. ISU-152 was no longer there, but there were still a lot of interesting things lying around the swamps. Our company in the spring of 2011 exhibited an outfit for this object. Attire - two gouges, an officer from the Central Research Institute and a wooden club. In March, when I first got there, it was deserted and mysterious on the site, the paths were covered with snow and, going around the objects at night, its crunch reflected from the walls of buildings with a booming creak, making the half-abandoned landfill even more unfriendly and ominous. But better days my service began in April, when the warm sun was peeking out, you could sit on a mound near the checkpoint, get a book and, together with a purring cat, rejoice at the end of an endlessly long army winter.
Once this site was intended for testing mines, explosives, demining systems and other exploding and vile food. In my time, it was almost completely abandoned. Photos from the site were fun in the barracks, where I passed the KMB, students of the 6th Kovelsky training center The engineering troops (before our brigade occupied this territory and this location) were engaged in the development of explosives near these same self-propelled guns.
The playground was a conscript's paradise. There you could take a break from the army routine, breathe fresh air and temporarily escape from the barracks into nature. It was possible to grab a hazing meal, to fray on the phone or wander around among the pines to your heart's content. What garbage we just did not suffer there. One of ours was counting the days on one of the walls until the end of the demobilization. Someone climbed the towers to stare at Nakhabino from above. Personally, I studied the objects scattered around the site, since there was a lot of interesting and mysterious things there. For example, a windowless building, the entire floor of which consisted of vertically placed sheets of glass. Styrofoam diving buoys were scattered nearby. In the distance there was an abandoned pond, in which underwater explosions, with an armored box with periscopes completely burned out from the inside. A FAB-100 bomb hung on one of the pine trees. And all over the site lay in incredible quantities the steps from the rockets jet system demining UR-77. In some places, rusty, but quite understandable flags with the letter "M" stuck out - mines. We tried to notice them in advance and not go there.
At the checkpoint there was a house just built from thick pine boards, in which there were two rooms - a little bigger, where there was a table with all kinds of documentation and topographic map terrain of some God forgotten year, and smaller, in which there was a trestle bed and an outfit lived. Both there and there, enterprising soldiers created zanchaks, where they kept a kettle, tea, coffee, mugs, cookies and other priceless treasures. On the platform, one could always drink plenty of tea, unlike a company, and the Russian soldier's commitment to tea is well known.
Of course, not every outfit on the site was so beloved to the heart of the conscript "rasso". There were different attendants. They were divided into good and bad. A good duty officer did not interfere in the life of the outfit and the site. Such an attendant, as a rule, put a laptop and began to cut into toys or watch a movie. A particularly good duty officer - and a certain captain of the second rank was considered such - planted soldiers to watch movies, because it was boring alone. A bad duty officer forced them to serve. This was expressed in cleaning the territory (as you know, in the army there is always something to remove and how to remove it), bypassing the entrusted objects at any time of the day or night and checking the integrity of the seals and locks on them.
To tell the truth, everyone disliked the night crawls the most, since they had to walk alone, and all the equipment included a MagLite flashlight (I have loved them since then) and a wooden baton. At night, the site made an eerie and frankly scary impression, staring at you with black gaps in the windows and creaking with tree branches and ropes of a cable car. The helplessness of our "weapons" added self-confidence and, as a rule, in the dark, we tried not to go far from the checkpoint - the site did not inspire any confidence with its swamps, minefields and deaf, unpleasant echo. Moreover, we constantly stumbled upon someone else's, not our soldier's footprints in various places and extremely did not want to meet strangers, and even in the middle of the night - if anything, you won’t scream for help there.
Once I was attire with Long. I don’t remember his last name, but his height was truly outstanding and fully justified his nickname - 205 cm. The duty officer was a strange, bald-headed major, who at first seemed to us a normal officer, but in the process revealed all his excellent qualities. He turned out to be an extremely confused charter, which is not typical for officers from the Central Research Institute at all - unlike combat officers, these are people who understand and condescendingly treat soldiers - and decided to organize the service exactly according to the instructions. He was so sick of us that at night we decided to disrupt the service at all costs and successfully did it, falling asleep, while according to the instructions, one soldier sleeps for 4 hours, and the second patrols the territory at that time and vice versa. Fortunately, for the whole night it was charged with such a thunderstorm that it was impossible to stick out the nose from the house. I had already had the tenth dream, as someone in the most unceremonious way began to wake me up. Turned out to be Major. The expression on his face was the most bewildered, and he began to scream heart-rendingly to the whole site:
- The service was flunked, the whole service was flunked, what to do now, everything is gone, because of you everything is just gone, the whole service has been flunked !!! Not a single detour during the night, not one! Everything is lost!!! TERRIBLE SERVICE!!!
I still cannot understand what could have disappeared among the half-ruined hulls and locked hangars at night in a thunderstorm, but the major sat the rest of the night on the bed, clasping his head in his hands and almost sobbing:
- Filled up the service, bastards, how can you trust them with something, filled up the entire service! Not a single detour!
In the morning, he composted our brains for a long time, which he will definitely inform the company commander and our service will henceforth be a uniform hell, that we will never again get to this site and, in general, an Arctic fur animal has come to us. We were a little nervous, but the story had no continuation, except that we no longer saw the major on the site.
There was also one bad duty officer at the institute, whose stories about atrocities knew no bounds and boundaries, but, oddly enough, he was the most interesting duty officer on this site. This lieutenant colonel was obsessed with a thirst for action, and under his leadership we either cleared the bed of a stream that flowed under the road from the checkpoint to the hangars, then restored the perimeter wire fence near the gate, then collected models of TM-62 mines on the site, then patched broken windows, then, after that memorable thunderstorm with the major, they collected, sawed and burned the branches she had broken. This underground not only forced us to work, but also led all this disgrace, along the way commenting on why and why we are doing all this. To tell the truth, I liked to stand with him on duty, because after a hard day he would give two or three hours of complete rest, and in the process of work with him you could talk about the site and about engineering. He obviously had a heart for the entrusted object and patched and repaired its structures not for show, but to the conscience. It was infectious, and the blocks of abandoned towers creaking in the wind began to inspire melancholy and we began to work hard even with enthusiasm unusual for conscripts.
We heard from the officers on duty that various dark personalities regularly hang around the site, but we ourselves have never seen them, we only saw their footprints in the snow or in the mud, sometimes even very fresh ones. This fact was what kept many outfits from exploring the bowels of the site, but in my case, curiosity usually outweighed. But one day in May, my partner and I finally saw the perpetrators with our own eyes. We were returning from a detour when a partner noticed that someone was walking along the long road along the eastern front of the site at a distance of about a hundred meters behind us. We stopped, looked closely and realized that there was more than one person there, but it was impossible to determine the exact number. We decided to take a step forward, since almost 400 meters from the checkpoint and the duty officer in the beginning twilight, and with our excellent weapons, there was not the slightest desire to communicate with violators. If people have entered a military facility and are not afraid of meeting with its owners, then nothing good will come from such a meeting. We turned onto the road to the checkpoint and moved another 50 meters closer to it when we saw four people in camouflage enter it. They stood, looked at us, and we looked at them. Then the duty officer came out of the house for some reason, saw this silent scene, and the four decided that it was better for them to retire. We, with our characteristic heroism, decided not to continue the pursuit - the men were somehow muddy. The duty officer approved our decision and canceled the night round - it would be better if everything went as usual without incident than the heroic military engineers would arrange a battle with their bare hands at Kerzhenets with unpredictable consequences due to a pile of rusty iron.
This is how I remember the 3rd platform, and these photos and the story will perfectly complement my memories, blooming and making them more alive.
Original taken from deletant in ISU-152 and so on at a training ground near Moscow
Previously, military equipment was tested for durability in this place, the strength of concrete was checked, and they learned how to build protective structures. Now everything is abandoned, overgrown with forest. Let's see what's left of the old landfill.
1. The first time I came here was in 2008. The path to the training ground lay past the marshy Lake General. On the shore stood a bath, guarded by soldiers. 
2. The first sign of the test site: a protective house for monitoring the progress of the tests. 
3. Window with thick glass. 
4. The old gate opened the entrance to the fenced area inside the perimeter of the landfill. (I have never seen these gates and have no idea where they are. Obviously, on the opposite side of the site from the checkpoint, otherwise the author of the post would hardly have got on it unnoticed)
5. Box from under the rocket. 
6. Trailer, a couple of shelters - that's all that was preserved outside the perimeter. 
7. Next was a large bunded site for blasting. 
8. I climbed the shaft and saw the purpose of my campaign. 
9. Here, since Soviet times, three self-propelled guns have stood in the swamp. 
10. The brand of these machines is ISU-152. 
11. They are equipped with 152mm howitzers. 
12. Looked into the muzzle brake of the gun. 
13. Armored gun mask. 
14. One of the test marks: a trace from a cumulative projectile. 
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16. The local soils are quite swampy. 
17. Rollers plunged into the water. 
18. The engine compartment was almost completely dismantled. There was no diesel and gearbox. 
19. Only the stern gearbox damaged by the explosion has survived. 
20. The back cover is open. 
21. The fighting compartment also got a lot. 
22. Shells once lay here. 
23. The aiming handles of the gun miraculously survived. 
24. A few meters away was the second self-propelled gun. 
25. The condition of the engine compartment is similar. 
26. But the gearbox survived. 
27. Inside. 
28. Finally, a third car was parked in the forest.
29. To get to it, you have to jump from bump to bump. 
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32. Unfortunately, around 2010, all self-propelled guns were removed from the landfill. 
33. Raising the flag on the flagpole, I left the site. 
34. I returned here only after 5 years, in 2013. First, I examined the tower, lost in the forest not far from the training ground. 
35. Bottom view. I did not climb up and hurried to the training ground. 
36. The fence around the site is still knocked down, the object was not useful to anyone. 
37. The embanked area for blasting is completely overgrown. 
38. Only a tattered tablet recalls the tests that took place here. 
39. The flag on the flagpole is gone. 
40. On the way, another armored "house" came across in the forest. 
41. Apparently, there were a lot of them scattered around the landfill even before it was overgrown with forest. 
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43. A stand for testing concrete protrudes from the thickets. This is its intended purpose. 
44. In fact, this is a stationary beam crane. To control the winch, a "birdhouse" is arranged at the top. 
45. Everything is the same in the fenced area, but the trailer was also taken away somewhere. 
46. Among young birch trees there are warehouses-shelters. 
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51. Here is a pleasant forest. You can find boletus and spent shells. 
52. I meet several houses. Some are closed, some are not. 
53. But everything is empty inside. 
54. On the local unstable soils, the foundations gradually subside, the walls crack. 
55. The only non-overgrown site of the landfill is next to three closed and sealed hangars. 
56. An interesting tower looms in the background, but more on that later. 
57. Another interesting object is hiding in the bushes behind the hangars. 
58. This is a self-made design with wheels from the BMP, which could move along the tracks from it. 
59. Apparently, this is a cart for a mobile target. 
60. From the electric motor that set it in motion, only the body remained. 
61. For twenty years this system has not been used, everything is overgrown. 
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63. Finally, about the tower. Actually there are two of them. 
64. Cables were stretched between the towers, along which a small cradle could ride. 
65. One of the towers was "leading", several winches were installed on it. 
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69. The tension of the cables was provided by a heavy concrete counterweight. 
71. Here, too, hangs a counterweight. 
72. Climbed to the very top. 
73. Here was a surprisingly new coil. Apparently recently installed. But why? 
74. Cables go to the second tower. 
75. The entire range from here is in full view.
76. And on the other side, a dacha cooperative is visible, closely adjacent to former landfill. Places here are hefty thieves. Apparently, the landfill will soon be built up. 
The engineering troops of Russia are one of the most diverse and technically equipped troops. The system of engineering weapons includes over 600 items of various samples and kits. In 2017 more than 750 units were delivered to the troops. engineering technology.
January 18, 2018 at the Federal State Budgetary Institution "Central Research Testing Institute engineering troops» The Russian Ministry of Defense (Nakhabino settlement, Moscow region) held an organizational meeting of the Council of Chief Designers for Systems and Means engineering support weapons systems of the ground component of the general forces. The meeting was attended by representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense and 56 chief designers of industrial enterprises in all areas of engineering support.
Chief of Engineering Troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Yu.M. Stavitsky especially noted that havingXiathe level of preparedness and equipment is the main guarantee of saving the lives of servicemen. He stressed the need to create a new collegial body - the Council of Chief Designers.
Yu.M. Stavitsky introduced to the audience the Chief Designer for Systems and Engineering Support of the Armament System of the Ground Component of the General Forces, General Director of JSC "NIIII" I.M. Smirnova.
In his speech, I.M. Smirnov dwelled on the features of the activities of the Chief Designer, general problematic issues development, revealing the composition, structure and main activities of the Council of Chief Designers.
In turn, the Scientific and Technical Committee of the Engineering Troops presented the main requirements for the appearance of engineering weapons in the near future, which means that the Council of Chief Designers has something to work on.
Meeting attendees viewed documentary about the engineering troops of Russia and laid wreaths at the monument "To the Warriors of the Internationalists, Participants in the Hostilities and Participants of the Great Patriotic War", opened in 2017. on the premises of the institute.
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15 Central Research and Testing Institute named after D. M. Karbyshev of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in Nakhabino. Prior to this, the institution was called "Research engineering institute ground forces(NIIII SV)", currently - NIITs SIV FGKU "3 Central Research Institute" of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.
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STORY
At the Nakhabinsk test site in the 30s, he conducted research and tested new engineering facilities and armaments D.M. Karbyshev - Professor, Doctor of Military Sciences, Hero Soviet Union. Karbyshev played an outstanding role in developing the theory of Soviet military engineering art. The activities of the test site, and then the institute, were closely connected with the work of D. M. Karbyshev.
Lieutenant General of the Engineering Troops D.M. Karbyshev, remaining faithful to the military oath and the Motherland to the end, died heroically in February 1945 in a fascist death camp.
In 1951, the institute was named after the hero-scientist. In the park on the street 11 sappers D.M. A monument was erected to Karbyshev.
Before the Great Patriotic War, the Higher Officers' Engineering School was located near the institute. It was located "on the hill" in a three-story building. In 1948, one-year courses were organized at the school for the retraining of young front-line officers. In 1952-1953, the school was transformed into the Central Advanced Courses for Officers of the Engineering Troops. In 1960, the rank of the courses was lowered - they became academic courses for the improvement of command personnel at the Military Engineering Academy. V.V. Kuibyshev. They were moved to the territory and premises previously occupied by the Separate Camouflage Battalion. Now the Training Center is located on this territory.
Subsequently, the territory "on the hill" became under the jurisdiction of the institute and received the name - the second territory. Since 1961, the institute began to be located in two territories.
To date, the main building of the Institute named after D.M. Karbyshev, located on the first territory, with adjoining park area and ponds, is the main architectural attraction of the village of Nakhabino. It was built in 1941.
From October to December 1941, the main building and other brick buildings were mined using radio-controlled land mines. An employee of the institute, a resident of Nakhabino Vyacheslav Dmitrievich Bobylev, took part in its mining and demining.
Research and Testing Center for Research and Prospects for the Development of Engineering Weapons FBU "3rd Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of Russia"
1919 - October 6, by order of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic, the Military Engineering Test Site was established
1926 - Scientific and testing engineering and technical range
1934 - Research Institute of Engineering Technology of the Red Army
1941 - Research Military Engineering Institute of the Red Army
1942 - Military engineering test site of the Engineering Committee of the Red Army
1943 - Research and Test Engineering Institute of the Red Army
1944 - Research Engineering Institute of the Red Army
1951 - On April 6, by the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the Institute was named after D.M. Karbyshev, Lieutenant General of Engineering Troops, Hero of the Soviet Union
1960 - Central Research and Test Engineering Institute. D.M. Karbysheva
1965 - 15th Central Research and Test Engineering Institute named after D.M. Karbysheva
1966 - On July 15, by the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the institute was awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Labor for the successful completion of tasks for the development, creation and development of military equipment
1990 -15th Central Research and Testing Order of the Red Banner of Labor Institute of the Ministry of Defense named after D.M. Karbysheva
2004 - Federal state unitary enterprise(FSUE) "15 TsNIIII im. D.M. Karbyshev of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation"
2007 - Federal State Institution (FGU) "15 Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of Russia"
2010 - Research and testing center for research and development prospects of engineering weapons of the Federal State Institution (FGU) "3rd Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of Russia"
2011 - Research and testing center for research and development prospects of engineering weapons of the Federal budget institution(FBU) "3rd Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of Russia"
A. Ermolin- Good afternoon to everyone who listens to us, the program “Military Council” is on air, the host in the studio is Anatoly Yermolin. I want to say right away that our program is being recorded today, which does not belittle its significance. Our guest today is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, Colonel, Head of the Research and Testing Institute of Engineering Troops of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, good afternoon Ivan Semenovich.
I. Vorobyov- Good afternoon, hello everyone.
A. Ermolin- Ivan Semenovich, well, this is not the first time with us, and your colleagues were there too. How do you assess, over the past year maybe, what is going on in principle in your troops? So I hear what the officers say that you have a powerful growth here, the number, the number of brigades, battalions, and regiments is increasing. Tell me more about what's going on.
I. Vorobyov- Well, for the last 2 years, with the advent of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Shoigu Sergey Kuzhugetovich, they turned their faces to the engineering troops, he forced everyone to turn their faces, as if to combat support. And so the development ... With his arrival, the engineering troops received a new development not only in their structural, regular systems, but also in the development of our engineering equipment. Already this year, we are creating a new formation of engineering troops, they will join the armed forces of the Russian Federation, and this is planned for next year. Well, the main thing, as they say, we must radically replace the means of engineering weapons in as soon as possible. And those tasks that were recently set by the Minister of Defense, so that 70% of the equipment should go to latest designs equipment weapons. This task was also set by the head of the engineering troops, Lieutenant General Yury Mikhailovich Stavitsky, including our research and testing institute of the engineering troops of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, on which we are now fruitfully working.
A. Ermolin- And there was a period when you were taken out of combat command, right? And attached to the rear, right?
I. Vorobyov“You even know that. Well, we will not evaluate the previous leadership, but there was such a stage in our scientific institution when we were subordinate to another scientific institution, the independent structure of which was subordinate to the military commander of the engineering troops - it was absent. And therefore, there were additional problems in design, in research, in the development of engineering troops to create new models. And this work, let's say so, did not stop, it continued anyway, this material accumulated, material was developed, we studied. While it was a time of such oblivion, we still built it up, this material. And now from October 1st this year The Central Research and Testing Institute of Engineering Troops of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation was formed, which is directly subordinate to the head of the engineering troops, Lieutenant General Yury Mikhailovich Stavitsky.
A. Ermolin- Well, that is, it is not at all necessary to enlarge, enlarge everything in order for everything to be as efficient as possible. I know in what sense? Unexpected (inaudible) I want to throw, that's just civil life to what is now happening in Moscow with educational institutions. By the way, I also think that when there is unique structures, then merge them with some larger ones ... That is, it is not always effective. But it's me, as they say, abusing it on my own, right? Ivan Semenovich, but tell us a few words about yourself, how did your military career develop?
I. Vorobyov- Well, I developed a military career, let's say so, for the first time with the engineering troops. Let's put it this way - I encountered the monsters of the engineering troops in 1988, while participating in the aftermath of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. When I saw...
A. Ermolin- How old were you then?
I. Vorobyov- I was 24 years old.
A. Ermolin- You mean old?
I. Vorobyov- First lieutenant, yes. I was given a high honor, and I was a participant in the liquidation of the consequences of the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
A. Ermolin- Admitted to the reactor.
I. Vorobyov- Yes, I was admitted to the reactor, we were stationed in a ten-kilometer zone, our engineering and road battalion was stationed. Carried out refurbishment tasks radioactive waste, and for the first time I encountered a scientific group that was from the 15th former Central Research Institute of Engineering Troops, which previously existed. It seemed to me that it was simply simply unattainable ... Those people who, deep down, were very great people at that time. And now, after almost 30 years, I headed this institute, the head of the troops somehow added to me. Therefore, I will try to justify this trust. And that story, those ... So work with former bosses Institute, we do not stop it, communication, I listen to them. Well, let's say so, in the future my life turned out more ... I served in the troops, in the southern military district, in the North Caucasus, in the southern military district. A participant in hostilities, in principle, practice - it is, we know what our soldier wants, we know how to protect him, we have seen it all, passed it through our hands. Now, as the task has been set by the chief of troops, all this should be translated into science, translated into new means, into the development of new means of engineering weapons.
A. Ermolin Was it scary in Chernobyl? What was it, scary or interesting? Or is it terribly interesting? What emotions does the young starley have there ...
I. Vorobyov- The main thing... Well, as instructed: the main thing is not to leave the road anywhere, not to go into any restricted areas, not to lift anything that is not necessary. Because everything is radioactive. Well, I think the state of health allows for the time being to head the institute, there are no health problems, but that's all ...
A. Ermolin- Have you caught radiation?
I. Vorobyov- Yes, of course. In small quantities, it is probably useful, we all gradually ... And in Moscow they catch it, this radiation. So I think...
A. Ermolin- Everything is useful for us. (inaudible) everything is useful.
I. Vorobyov Yes, so I don't see anything wrong with that.
A. Ermolin- Well, you can really protect ... That's all the same unique experience soldiers in the conditions nuclear threat there, or radiation. That's what ... Here, a competent officer can really do it, relying on standard protective equipment, to make sure that all people survive, or receive a minimum dose of radiation.
I. Vorobyov- Well, firstly, according to the requirements for the development of engineering weapons, which partly concerns ... Either this is equipment, or these are some kind of protective equipment, they are all developed taking into account protection from the effects of radiochemical, biological radiation. Currently, our one of the divisions of our institute is working on modern technologies, in the use of means of the personnel protection unit. This is if we previously relied more on reinforced concrete structures that were part of the ratification structures, then at the present time these are already modern composites, which are both lightweight, and including their property allows you to give more protection personnel, hide them, ensure the survivability of these structures. Well, including, even ... I will continue this topic so that we somehow (inaudible) our listeners in that we will apply them already by the method (inaudible). And to assemble the structure that we need exactly for that terrain, and as much as possible we can protect the personnel.
A. Ermolin- So I pester your colleagues all the time with one low American one, called “Good Soldiers”. It’s just there ... Well, I just recommend reading it, because it’s about how the Americans fought in Iraq. There just with one ... Close military unit the journalist was constantly. And he simply describes the real experience, what the fighters feel, how they died there, what is being done. It's just very similar to what we felt in Afghanistan. The same tactic, they sit on the armor, the same way they tighten their legs so that at least one leg remains on these of their own (inaudible). Actually, why do I remember this - because that's where I just read about these legos, about such prefabricated structures, when the engineering service arrives, chik-chik, and actually built it there ... Well, not from adobe bricks, which at one time in We did Afghanistan, right? But you do everything quickly, right there is a tower, right there are drones, right there is a control zone. That is such a very effective technology. I mean, we already have that too. Or is it still being developed?
I. Vorobyov- It's in development. And it already means what you say on drones, and the control of the adjacent territory, what we should carry out, and how to place it all. A task has been set for the commanders of the troops, it will be carried out, and in the month of May ...
A. Ermolin- Drones (inaudible).
I. Vorobyov- Yes, the drones (inaudible) that worked with us ... At the open (inaudible) guys worked for us at competitions, joint interaction was organized, they worked very fruitfully. But the chiefs of troops were given the task that in May, at the meeting of the leading staff of the engineering troops, we must report to our commanders, to our chiefs on the measures taken. Therefore, these modern samples of funds will already be presented there. modern weapons, this is a line of our engineering equipment, which will be ... In 2 years, which has already been completed, created. The enterprises will present all this so that we can already report and show specifically not on paper already, not on mock-ups, but we will present all of this equipment live to our subordinate officers.
A. Ermolin- Are you studying world experience? You have analysts who don't find out on Ekho Moskvy, let's put it this way.
I. Vorobyov Well, you can't live without it. You know, whoever has the information owns the world, so we have it all the time, it all starts with this. This is the initial data for the design and creation of any type of equipment, we take the experience of foreign countries. Where, as used, is precisely the practical action in dual-use combat. Miscellaneous principles there is an approach, as to each sample. Therefore, we study them, and before continuing this work, we choose the direction that suits us ... In general, we look, study both the model that we must create, and the opposition to this model, how, what happens in foreign armies, too, we are studying so that he can counteract.
A. Ermolin- I want to remind you that today we are working on the record, and our guest today is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, colonel, head of the research, testing institute of engineering troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Ivan Semenovich, we stopped at foreign experience, on how you research it and apply it in your developments. And at the same time, do not forget Russian history. After all, a military engineer Russian history, and in the history of the armed forces has always been the first elite itself. And here's how ... What do you draw from there, right? And what traditions are you trying to keep?
I. Vorobyov- Well, first of all, I want to remind our listeners that the engineering troops are the oldest troops of our armed forces. Next January, we will already be celebrating the 313th anniversary of the formation of the engineering troops. Our research and testing institute of engineering troops is one of the oldest scientific institutions of the Ministry of Defense. Just recently, on October 6, we celebrated the 95th anniversary of our institute. Therefore, we never departed from history, and never left. Because if someone forgets history, he has no future. This is the first principle that is preserved in the engineering troops. We are constantly given… We work with our veterans. These are the people who started... Let's say so, who started science on some models, on mock-ups, now they have smoothly switched to software testing schemes. We always work with them, we always interact. They make up the largest percentage in our institute, our respected people, veterans. Who gave not 30 years, but 50, 60 years. There are even veterans who gave engineering troops. And the invaluable experience that they have from the time there (inaudible) training ground, military operations in Afghanistan, counter-terrorist operations, they ... This is still only for the benefit of the development of engineering troops. Therefore, honor and praise to them, many thanks to them, and we are always ready to work with them.
A. Ermolin- What period in the history of the engineering troops can be called such a breakthrough in the development of tactics for the use of new technical means.
I. Vorobyov- Well, first of all, we must not forget that the breakthrough period is still the development of engineering troops, (inaudible) engineering weapons, which are now even currently being used. These were the developments of the 70s. It seems like 50 years have passed, but they are relevant now. And now, in the second decade of the 21st century, we are trying to do new stage a breakthrough because, first of all, the development of engineering weapons should be based on new technologies, on new requirements for engineering weapons, and as the task was again set by the chief of troops, each tool should have its own zest so that we do not stop at modernizing just a sample . And it must be developed new, according to new requirements, according to new trends that we have for engineering weapons.
A. Ermolin- And you are satisfied with the engineering culture, the bearers of which are those officers who come to you. Well, I can give you an example as an illustration... Recently I re-read the memoirs of Pyotr Alekseevich Kropotkin, who was a prince, studied in the page corps. He described his page years in great detail, including the great importance given to fortification work. And he writes like they are cadets, although in the status of pages, right? That is how they are. How much time and effort was spent on calculations, on construction fortifications, and how it was a shame for them to break it all later. Because they built it all for real. Now, as you can see... Well, actually I won't repeat myself. Are you satisfied with those engineers who come to you today?
I. Vorobyov“The quality of training at our Tyumen Higher Engineering Command School is very high. And our graduates - they are always in demand in the troops, this is first of all. Our graduates of the Academy of the Military Institute of Engineering Troops, as part of the combined arms academy, are also very much in demand among the troops. Well, if we continue this topic, then if we stop at a soldier, then from this school year engineering training became the main subject of study. Therefore, if a unit is negligent in its engineering training classes, it can get higher than the mark that it will receive in engineering training, it will never receive. Therefore, the attitude of the commanders of all became more serious about engineering training. Because everyone understands perfectly well, if you don’t know engineering, as Peter I says, then you won’t be promoted in rank either. Therefore, everyone is very... Now there has been a big change in relations in engineering training in the troops, and the readiness of personnel, officers, it has increased significantly. Well, if you don’t go that far, the last competition “Our Open Water” was held among the pontoon crossing units of the engineering troops in the city of Murom Vladimir region, showed highest class officer staff. The personnel of the units, the performance of engineering support tasks, in particular those related to overcoming and forcing a water barrier.
A. Ermolin- I suggest we talk about this in more detail. If possible, a few words about what your institute is like. We have already talked about the troops, about human capital too, right? Let's focus on exactly what you do every day.
I. Vorobyov- Our Institute consists of four main departments, research departments, which have their own areas of activity, scientific activity, including our leading department - this is which is developing engineering ammunition. It creates them, creates ways to overcome these ammunition, search, reconnaissance. (Unintelligible) there is a department that is developing our engineering equipment, in particular those related to earth-moving machines, amphibious assault vehicles. (Unintelligible) management, which leads the opposition technical means reconnaissance, and the creation of means of disguise. The fourth department is engaged in the training of our entire scientific work in management. (Unintelligible) the activities of the four directorates, it covers the entire spectrum of our engineering equipment, our tasks that we have as a type of combat support. We cover them in full. The development and direction of the development of funds were determined by the chief of troops, a common understanding of our future activities was developed, among other things. First of all ... Well, if we take it in terms of the departments of those who are involved in engineering ammunition, this is not a violation in the first place Geneva Convention, the creation of ammunition must be carried out in strict accordance with overcoming (inaudible) obstacles, this is the creation of search tools that can provide search in any situation, in any environment, and any means, explosive objects in any conditions. Well, there are very progressive developments in the creation of engineering equipment. We hope that in the month of May, as I told you, we will show these funds. This means that they are promising, they differ significantly from the means that we currently have in service. Because there are new approaches to them presented. Well, our developments continue in terms of means of camouflage against counteraction. First of all, no one could find us anywhere. Well, in short.
A. Ermolin- Do you have, say, a unit that operates in advanced research mode. Here, in the structure of the military-industrial commission, such a powerful direction has been created, and in general, the Americans have existed for 100 years (inaudible), which invented the notorious Internet there at one time, in fact. And there are specially trained people there, including science fiction writers, who are paid money to simply fantasize and set tasks for today that seem absolutely unrealistic, and then several decades pass, and suddenly you see, it all starts to work. Here you have such a brain center that would think about what is not yet there.
I. Vorobyov- You know, here in the engineering troops we have such a term (inaudible). There must be action everywhere. Therefore, I will not disclose it, we also have it.
A. Ermolin- It's already nice. I want to remind our listeners that our guest is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, colonel, head of the research, testing institute of the engineering troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense, we are leaving for a break.
A. Ermolin- We continue the meeting of the "Military Council". I want to remind you that today we are working on a recording, and our guest today is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, Colonel, Head of the Research and Testing Institute of Engineering Troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Actually, it is not a secret that there was a period when the older generation was not in demand, the middle link was not actually involved in anyone, and now such a hole has formed. That is, as many fellow experts say, yes? That great minds are already in strong retirement age, and young guys with drive are just ready to get involved in the action, but there is such a central link, the most important hard workers who already know the specifics, and who have not yet lost their energy. Do you feel such a problem for yourself?
I. Vorobyov- So the whole backbone, in particular, of our institute, there is a backbone in the institute. For all the above categories, as you said, there is a backbone. Young people who already have academic degrees that they defended ... Are candidates technical sciences The guys are young and promising. The middle link, as you say, who pull this burden, who can work with young people and the older generation, we will say so, our heads of departments. The officers who came have experience in both military service and scientific activities. Our departments are also headed by doctors of sciences, people are headed ... For science, the age is 40-45 years, these are still young guys for science.
A. Ermolin- Well, in general, yes.
I. Vorobyov- Yes. And those who are officers of the engineering troops who have completed their service, have completed their service, they also share their experience within the walls of our institute. Yes, we would like to have more young people, and first of all, we are now developing this youth policy, how to attract young specialists to the institute. We got acquainted with the experience of our Bauman, how it all happens there. And I was very pleased when, for example, the employees of Baumanka are young, 23-24 year old guys, it turns out they don’t work for money, they work ...
A. Ermolin“Not just for money.
I. Vorobyov“Not only for money, yes. They don't get a lot of money. I will say that they do not receive much money for Moscow standards. But they work for an idea, they work for interest, they like it, and this is important (inaudible), which I wanted to hear, and in principle we will also direct our youth policy towards this in order to attract young people to our side, and within the walls of our institute. Including (inaudible) no interest. Right now, the issue of creating a scientific company of engineering troops is being worked out. This is the task set by the Minister of Defense ...
A. Ermolin- Where do you want to do it? In Tyumen?
I. Vorobyov- No, we're here (inaudible).
A. Ermolin- (inaudible).
I. Vorobyov- Somewhere we will, yes, here we will tie it to our institute, to our potential, yes. Therefore, the second, maybe we will consider the issue in universities, maybe the issue will be resolved, after all, this is mentally, as they say, in our places, and they will budget places from our institute, that upon graduation from the university, the graduate will be obliged to come to us and work for the benefit of the institute for three years. And then he will be free to choose his profession, or continue to cooperate with us, or leave. Well, this is an option, we are these ...
A. Ermolin- (inaudible) find a perspective. That is, it is as if it has not been worked out yet.
I. Vorobyov- Not worked out, yes, but we have already started it ...
A. Ermolin- There are many interesting...
I. Vorobyov- Yes, we started working on this idea.
A. Ermolin- That is, 3 years ... He comes to you after a civil institute already certified as ...
I. Vorobyov- Specialist, yes. And he is already in office. We have those positions that the head of the laboratory, he can take, and work already for the good. Moreover, he even takes part in those practices that are production practices, and scientific practices that are institute, he will take them within the walls of the institute.
A. Ermolin- And he can be certified for officer positions, or he (inaudible).
I. Vorobyov- If he has military department, this question ... He will come to us as to civilians, if he suits us, we can call him in the future, and he can go to an officer position with a promotion, and with a further prospect of growth as an officer, as a specialist in engineering troops.
A. Ermolin- Do you trust young ambitious developments? Why am I asking? Because young scientists work not only for money. Young scientists work in the first place ... Actually, the theory is just intellectual workers, the creative class, as they say now, right? They assume that they must be trusted with some very cool tasks, which really, no matter what, they were very interested. In Belarus, by the way, the guys also talk about who develops automotive technology. I mean, everything is there... Average age 25-26 years old, like that.
I. Vorobyov Yes, and I want to build it. This is a priority for young people at the institute, we have stirred them up a little now, ideas have already begun, thoughts have begun. Monthly meetings with youth are already planned, as they say, as my daily routine and work with youth, because somewhere in my soul I don’t consider myself old either. What we implemented, someone once laughed at us, but now it turns out promising direction development. I educate my youth in the same way so that they understand that they should see a like-minded person in me, see the person who will support them. I am ready to work with them. Two officers wanted to retire, they had already refused to be transferred to the reserve. Therefore, we will continue to work, we have seen a new direction of our activity.
A. Ermolin- Ivan Semenovich, here you come up with ... You are no longer just trying, but coming up with new modern trends increase the attractiveness of your service. In particular, you have already mentioned open water, as a kind of combination of such a professional competition, and a show. What is this? Is this a fashion, or is it a serious strategy?
I. Vorobyov“I still think it’s a strategy. And let's say so, again, 2 years ago, the Minister of Defense gave impetus to this development of competitiveness, competitiveness. I had to study in the 13th year tank biathlon from the engineering troops. I learned a lot, and this year I was involved in the reassignment to the position of our ... Competition of the Open Water crossing units. And I think that it is here in these competitions of any types of military branches that participate, that is, such extreme conditions are created when the equipment is simply used to its maximum capabilities. And this gives a very big leap forward in the development of science in the first place. Because those means that have been used for, say, 20-30 years, it seemed to us that they had already simply been brought to automatism, but here, for example, these competitions in crossing means revealed some problems. Because these conditions were created when we didn’t just meet the standards, as we used to do all the time, but here there was competitive competition on the verge ... Everyone walked along the razor’s edge, while not violating safety requirements, while using that technique to the maximum. Some new schemes were introduced, new ways of using our technology.
A. Ermolin What was the intention, by the way? Here's how... What was the task of the units, what did they compete in?
I. Vorobyov- Subdivisions... So, let's say it was played out... Our main task of the engineering troops, the type of combat support, is to ensure the crossing of the water barrier.
A. Ermolin- Was it in Murom?
I. Vorobyov- Yes, it was in the city of Murom, Vladimir Region, in a limited area where the initial, opposite bank was prepared. Three teams competed at the same time in limited areas (inaudible) up to 100 meters, where they showed their skills. And skill was shown not only by crossing on high-speed boats. And also single ferries, platoon ferries were assembled, a company ferry was assembled, which is capable of transferring large-sized heavy equipment. And the end of the competition was the construction of a floating bridge across the Oka River, 350 meters long. Here is the guidance of this bridge, along which all the equipment passed. Also, in order to show our viewers all the possibilities of engineering equipment, before the start of these competitions, our unique samples were shown, these are ferry-bridge crossing vehicles, crossing facilities. We were also shown, motorized rifle units, artillery units participated with us, which provided ... Aviation helped us a lot. Well, we are also grateful to the administration of the city of Murom, which provided us with great assistance in holding our competitions. And I think the main indicators are those 15,000 people who came to watch and cheer for the engineering troops, and at the deployed recruitment center, which was deployed at this site, we, as part of the engineering troops, 8 people, signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense. Well, as a continuation of the Murom land, we will create such a backbone of engineering troops there, including a large panton crossing unit.
A. Ermolin- Our guest is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, colonel, head of the research, testing institute of the engineering troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Do you somehow interact with colleagues from, say, Rostekhnologii? And I just remembered that just last Monday we had a representative of Compass Design Bureau, and he talked about new technologies, about new ideas for building mobile ports. It's also like a kind of Lego system, prefabricated metal, environmentally friendly.
I. Vorobyov- Well, here I am common phrases I will say. Our institute cooperates with about 150 scientific institutions and industrial ones.
A. Ermolin- Rostekhnologii, right?
I. Vorobyov- Yes. In general, our cooperation goes in all directions, so we are not from anyone ... We always take who has the best, who offers what. Many people help us to develop on their own initiative, or offer something on their own initiative, let's say so. Everyone used to get used to: give us money, and we will give you something for this money. Now there is a completely different approach, including with Rostekhnologii. They proactively offer us their developments, which we can implement. And if they do not suit us, if they fulfill all our requirements, we take them further to the serial stream.
A. Ermolin- And what other strategic directions do you see in the system of providing troops? So we recalled Chernobyl, and I remembered something in this regard while still being a cadet, so we were shown this technique, which is designed to operate in conditions nuclear strike, contamination of a radioactive area, and to me they always seemed to be some kind of spaceships, which there almost have to walk on Mars. Are they preserved? You can exploit them, and what's new in this direction. There are such smart, very well-protected machines, or the stake is simply placed there on cranes, bulldozers, graders. That is, everything that does not excite the imagination of a young man, let's say so.
I. Vorobyov- No, well, first of all, we should not give up cranes, bulldozers and excavators. Because without them, nowhere ... Neither the troops will move, they will not complete the tasks. And in terms of prospects, what you said continues. We have never stopped it, the development of robotic systems continues in the first place. Because they - the first developments were started back in the 70-80s. Even let's say so, our probable opponents did not have them, and our developments were already controlled ... There was radio-controlled equipment, these are samples. The only thing is that now the transition has gone more to fulfilling tasks in order to save the lives of personnel. This is primarily a means of demining. As for engineering support, tools are being developed ... These are fire extinguishing tools, remote control. And in the future, other samples will be developed to perform other engineering tasks. First of all, they are aimed at moving our soldier as far as possible from the probable danger in order to ensure his life, and at the same time we could complete all the assigned tasks.
A. Ermolin- Do you protect intellectual property? How do you put it… This is one of the most key problems in general, well, let's say, in neo-crises related to the specifics of our country. I remember at the Institute of Steel and Alloys they told such a story that, say, a doctor of science received the Stalin Prize for the invention of a lithium battery in 1957. Actually, the lost profit is gigantic, right? Because the whole world can't right now... Given the spread mobile phones, all kinds of tablets and so on, just can not do without them. It turns out that we have lost the money that we could earn on intellectual property. Here you are somehow... What are you doing in the country, and how much do you insure your risks in the international arena? Or is it impossible to insure them?
I. Vorobyov- Well, we are still ensuring the safety of our intellectual property on our own. Maybe we are up to the level of insurance ...
A. Ermolin- Preservation, or commercialization?
I. Vorobyov- Well, before commercialization, we may come to this a little later. It can’t be, but we’ll come, and these tasks are also set by the boss. But at present, what is being developed within the walls of the institute, I am called to preserve it, this intellectual property while within our walls. And what will be decided, submitted for commercialization, it will already be made a separate decision so that, as they say ... These developments went somewhere further. Therefore, now the main task is to preserve our potential, the intellectual property that has been created today for the development of our engineering weapons in the first place.
A. Ermolin- Well, by the way, there is something to learn from the same Americans. When they have a very clear ranking of all the neo-crows there. They don’t show space to anyone, they don’t show the army to anyone, then it’s already starting to give something for their own, and only at the fourth stage, maybe 10 years after the introduction of the first samples of real ones into operation, foreign commercial partners can get it there .
I. Vorobyov- I think that our special services… The first is that they told me the category, the first category of our service, I don’t know… Therefore…
A. Ermolin- Well, after all, among the immediate tasks, as the head of such a promising, interesting institute, what do you see as the most important thing in your work?
I. Vorobyov- First of all, it is necessary not to lower, but to increase your scientific potential, this is the first thing. We will have to work, as I said, in order to supply the institute with new personnel, new directions. Thoughts - this will be connected with the arrival of new people to the institute. This is a thorough study of the material that is available on the creation of engineering weapons like our potential enemy, foreign partners, and the development of new promising funds engineering weapons. This is a prerogative, we must fulfill the task set by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation to provide our troops with new models, modern models of engineering equipment, and a new perspective. Well, for now I will keep silent about them a little, I will not reveal them to the end. Let it then be much more interesting for all our listeners.
A. Ermolin- Do you have your own test base?
I. Vorobyov- Yes, we have a test base. First of all, our unique pool for studying the properties of amphibious assault vehicles. We have a very good laboratory for testing electrical equipment, we have a cold store, which ensures the testing of funds for temperature conditions up to -50 degrees. We have the impact of the shock wave, the so-called our pipe, (inaudible) pipe. And there are test sites for floating equipment, there are test sites for testing explosive barriers, where these tests are constantly carried out. Therefore, our institute is currently being optimized, including that we will soon submit these proposals to the chief of troops in order to optimize the creation of the laboratory and experimental base of our institute, which should already correspond to modern conditions, modern requirements, the creation of a laboratory building of a new proposal by a buoy to take out. And to optimize the work of our research departments, and management in general.
A. Ermolin- So I want to ask many more questions, but unfortunately time is very fleeting. I want to remind our listeners that Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, Colonel, Head of the Research and Testing Institute of Engineering Troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense, was our guest today. Ivan Semenovich, thank you very much, come to us again, we will always be happy.
I. Vorobyov- Always ready for cooperation.
A. Ermolin- Thanks.
I. Vorobyov- Thank you very much.