For this I needed more than a year! The meeting turned out to be very pleasant: on March 11, Anya and Sergey had their first wedding anniversary. And besides, the film directed by Anna Matison "After you" with Bezrukov in the title role is being released in wide release.

Anya, Seryozha, I am glad that we finally met not only for private communication. You are surprisingly harmonious and dynamic in a creative union, your daughter is growing up. Let's talk about all this.

Sergey: I really want, Vadik, to leave the most beautiful words about our relationship behind the scenes. Because when everything is on display, wide open, I don’t like it very much. I didn't like it before, but even more so now. Sometimes you read your various interviews and think: “Lord, how much stupidity is in them, how much childishness, nonsense in them!” I am 43 years old, I can already understand something important about myself and

think about perspective. That's all.

Agree with you. But Anya is younger, and she has not yet had time to taste all this veil of public attention.

Anna: Well, Vadik, you know that at one time, when Satisfaction was shown at Kinotavr (a joint film by Anna Matison and Evgeny Grishkovets. - Note. OK!), I had every chance to go on the "glossy" road. I received a lot of tempting offers. But as Zhenya Grishkovets said then, “the most difficult thing is to give up everything, and for you it will be the only the right way". Because it is very easy to become a hostage to an image and you will be forced to make films even if there is no material that will really captivate you. This “should” will weigh on you like the sword of Damocles, which is ready to fall at any moment. And you will also worry all the time about the fact that you will not be published in one magazine and will not be told about you in the next program, and so on.

I remember that at Kinotavr I was immediately offered several scenarios, and I politely declined. I thought that I'd better shoot what I'm interested in - a documentary film about classical music. Yes, my audience will narrow down to three percent of the country's population, but I will do what I believe in and what I consider important for myself. And my "other" time will come, if necessary.

This "other" time came when you shot the film "Milky Way" with Sergei Bezrukov in the title role. I know that at first you didn’t want to offer the main role to Serezha, because you didn’t suspect that he was interested in roles outside the established image of a glossy hero, but everything changed when you saw him on stage as Chichikov in The Adventure.

A: That's right. And as for my stereotypical perception of Sergei ... The yellow media, which exploited Serezha mercilessly, is to blame. Now I already know the price of all this. For example, I somehow saw myself and Seryozha on the cover of a magazine for which we had never filmed. Or I read an interview in the press that I didn’t give, and here are the comments of my non-existent friends from the faculty of journalism, where I never studied, and so on.

It's not that hard to create a fake story. Especially when we are talking about famous actor and a new turn in his personal destiny. But your case is special, and here only the “secular” component is indispensable. Indeed, thanks to the director Mathison, the actor Bezrukov got the opportunity to reveal himself in a new way, and this happens quite rarely in the cinema, because they like to use an already established image here.

S .: You are right, Vadik. Cinema is basically the exploitation of roles, of course. I think that every actor has this problem: they start replicating him. It happened to me after the "Brigade". Although, in fact, I still have a very good attitude towards the character Sasha Bely: it was great to play the “godfather” at twenty-seven! ( Smiling.) But that was fifteen years ago. And Annie's offer I immediately liked. " Milky Way" - good new year story. I felt that there was no need to play anything heroic. An ordinary simple person with his emotional experiences - it seemed to me new and interesting.

You were invited to the Milky Way just a few days before the start of filming. But you have a crazy schedule planned months in advance. And here it was necessary, as they say, to jump into the last carriage.

S .: At that moment, I suddenly freed up time. It so happened that just then I refused to shoot in Viking.

I didn't know you were in the casting for Viking.

S .: I auditioned for the role of Varyazhko, which as a result was played by Igor Petrenko. There were long trials, very long ones. But director Andrey Kravchuk had a different vision of the image.

By the way, did you and Anya already know each other by the beginning of the filming of The Milky Way? After all, Anya wrote the script for "Yolki".

A .: Somewhere I read that we met at Yolki, but this is not so. As a rule, the screenwriter does not meet with the actor, since the screenwriter most often finishes his work before the artist appears.

S .: By the way, later I found out that Anya, together with Grishkovets, was shooting Satisfaction. I have seen this movie before and liked it. Although, of course, then I paid attention first of all to the name Grishkovets and remembered an excellent acting work Denis Burgazliev, with whom we simultaneously studied at the Moscow Art Theater School.

Finished filming "Milky Way"...

A .: ... and I said: “Goodbye, Sergey Vitalievich!” It was on the island of Olkhon, where the final field shooting took place.

Like this: Sergey Vitalievich?!

A .: No, perhaps, Sergey, but definitely on you.

S .: And I was with Anya for you. At least because of my age, because I'm older after all. Seniors have the right to say "you". I was actually sad that the shooting was over. A great team gathered there, there was a very good atmosphere - everyone is focused on the result. After all, it often happens that on the set someone is knocked out of the team: for example, the operator swears with the illuminator or with someone from the production part, and immediately the negative comes. And here gathered such a friendly company good people.

Anya always achieved what she wanted on the set, and this means that the director is a person, and not just an executor of will famous actor. I remember that I myself advised her something, offered some ideas for the script, and she agreed only if it sounded convincing.

When did the “you-you” situation change?

A .: By the end of the filming of "The Milky Way" we had two new scripts written "under Seryozha" ready. That is, it was such an emotional creative outburst! We talked a lot about what would be interesting for him to play, what roles were not played. For example, we are talking about Anna Karenina, Seryozha immediately takes and plays some episode - and Vronsky is already in front of you! So one idea arose, a second, a third ... And when I saw Seryozha in the play "Adventure", which you mentioned, I was shocked by his plasticity, the ability to hear music. Once I talked with Maya Mikhailovna Plisetskaya and asked her what partners she would be best to dance with. She replied: "Those who hear music." It turns out that even at her level it happens that they don’t hear. So, Seryozha heard everything. After the "Adventures" I went up to Seryozha, he is all like that ... well, like ballet ones look: transparent, porcelain, minus a few kilograms. And the next morning I had the idea of ​​the film “After You”, and I immediately told it to Seryozha.

Time flies quickly, and now the film "After You" is released on the screens. Sergei played in this picture a former ballet dancer, a man with a burnt soul, restless, who has lost touch with the outside world.

S: For me it is very interesting image. My hero Temnikov with steel armor, but terribly vulnerable inside. By virtue of its complex nature he puts more and more obstacles for himself. The hero is laconic, silent, all emotions are hidden from others. At the same time, he has a very ironic and quick mind, which allows the whole story to be told with a bit of humor.

The film "After You" was very well received at the "Kinotavr" (I am a witness to this), then at the International Film Festival in Tokyo. I wish your picture a successful rolling fate!

S.: We also want this for ourselves. Although we don’t understand at all whether those who will definitely like this movie go to cinemas now. I mean, young people, of course, I hope they will like it: a very cool hero, a properly fashionable movie, it was at festivals. But the big question is whether older people will be able to put aside their usual affairs - it would be great for them to watch such a movie! I really hope for word of mouth. I hope people will tell each other! I hope that now they will read my words and at least watch the trailer on the Internet, and then, you see, they will reach the cinema.

I would like to believe in it. Now about something else. I remember the time when Anya, very young, had just arrived in Moscow from Irkutsk. And it so happened that she rented an apartment from my brother (our mutual friends contributed). That was thirteen years ago.

A .: By the way, about gloss. The local newspaper immediately offered me then to write an article entitled “A woman from Irkutsk lives at Vernik’s”. I said: “Class! But only when you are interested in what I do, and not where I live, we will talk.” Then, by the way, indeed, if something appeared in the press about me, it was only related to my work - this is generally the only thing I would like to talk about with journalists.

But Anechka and I have a different relationship, so I will continue. Good?

Oh good. ( Smiling.)

Here is such a stroke. The first thing that appeared in the apartment after your move was flowers in pots. You seem to have brought them with you.

A .: Yes, yes, it was important for me to immediately create some kind of my own space, to be here at home.

You came to Moscow with big plans and ambitions, but soon returned to Irkutsk.

A .: I returned to Irkutsk not because I did not find myself in Moscow. It's just the way things are in the family. I needed to be close to my mom and family. And although from the age of twelve I tormented my mother that I would definitely leave for Moscow, I did not leave my ambitions, as you say. Returning to Irkutsk, I immediately suggested to Yura Dorokhin and Andrey Zakablukovsky, who taught me everything in the profession and with whom we had our own small film studio: "Let's make a movie." We couldn't shoot a full meter, but we made a short film "The mood has improved" based on the texts of Evgeny Grishkovets.

This is a wonderful lyrical movie. Seryozha, have you seen "Mood ..."?

S: Of course.

A .: Soon after we shot this film, I left for Moscow forever.

And why did you “torment” your mother from the age of twelve with statements that you would definitely leave for Moscow?

A .: I had a feeling of some kind of vacuum early on: a terrible shortage of theater, concerts, exhibitions, there is almost no opportunity to travel to Europe because of ticket prices (we still do not have low-cost airlines). True, at first there were no creative thoughts.

I thought that I would be connected with economics: I always liked mathematics, and I was going to move in this direction. But it never seemed to me that I would study economics in Irkutsk. And when I realized that I was interested in creating my own world, and not integrating into an existing one, it became quite obvious: leaving for Moscow is only a matter of time.

Anya, I always liked your integrity of character. You really did and do only what you are interested in: you shot documentary films about musicians with the participation of Denis Matsuev, Konstantin Khabensky as Prokofiev, Valery Gergiev, later staged an opera at the Mariinsky Theater, now you are completely immersed in feature films...

A .: Listen, Vadik, now you get the impression that Seryozha lives with such a woman! ( Smiling.)

WITH.: Strong personality It's always great, it's always great. And outside of work, Anya is a very homely and family person. For example, she cooks amazingly.

Truth?

S .: The praises of Anechka as a hostess can be sung and sung. We coincided with Anya very much: both are homemade, and this is how we like to spend time.

A .: I have never attended local social events in Irkutsk, especially in Moscow. When I rented an apartment from Igor, I helped him prepare a teleconference for one project, made a video. It was necessary to shoot a social event there, and I realized that this was absolutely not my thing. Today, such technologies that you can do a lot without leaving your apartment. For example, now I am editing a film version of the play "Cyrano de Bergerac" with the participation of Seryozha, and I do not need anyone for this. I sit at home on my laptop and work.

And if the husband at this moment wants to rest?

S .: Anya is editing, I close the door in the office - and nothing is heard. Well, what about secular life... Everyone has their own passions and preferences, and this is wonderful. It is quite possible that if lovers of this lifestyle were offered our pastime as an alternative, they would say: “What are you going to ride bicycles? To some park?

Are you both passionate about cycling?

S.: Yes. Do you see how cycling Moscow has become?

I imagine a picture: people are walking in the center of the city, and Bezrukov and Mathison on bicycles meet them. Beautiful!

S .: It is not necessary to ride in the center, we have parks, it is a pleasure to ride in the forest. As they say, a person who loves bicycles will understand another person who also loves bicycles. Therefore, you can describe for a long time how amazing it is.

A .: To be honest, I directly suffered in Moscow without a bicycle. I left him in Irkutsk with my younger brother. I remember when I first opened the door of our apartment with Seryozha with a key, I immediately understood why he wanted me to come alone. There was a brand new bike in the hallway. It was Serezha's gift. By the way, he told me a lot about how he loved to travel with the whole family, and together with his father.

S .: Yes, we skated a lot in my childhood, when we still lived on Kosinskaya Street. Not far away is my native Kuskovo, where I practically grew up. My father even took his famous bicycle "Kama", which took shape, on tour with him. Very convenient: spread it out - and ride around the city. So my upbringing is such a “bicycle”, and it was a lucky coincidence that Anechka also loves it - now we can ride together!

Fine. Rest is rest, but I think you're both 100% workaholics. Your daughter is only a few months old, and after giving birth, Anya almost immediately returned to her favorite pastime - writing scripts, filming ...

A .: Well, I have it all combined. Although you know, Vadik, many people perceive it almost as heroism that I am always with Masha, since we do not have a nanny.

Is the absence of a nanny a principled position?

A .: I think many women are ready to be with their newborn child all the time and do not hire a nanny if they can afford to be with him and at the same time work. Our child is not accidental - we wanted him. And since we wanted it, then doing it is a pleasure!

Besides, I don't think that my mother was a hero, and she has three children, and she worked all the time. And Seryozha's mother worked and took care of him in the same way, and all this was always in the order of things. Seryozha's dad also worked hard and fully, and at the same time he was engaged in Seryozha, he has always been and remains his closest friend. We would like it to be the same for our daughter.

S .: It is important that the child thinks and speaks like us, and not like a nanny. We want to be friends and authority for our child. To be honest, I don’t always like the way modern children are brought up.

A: I agree. For example, if a person older than me comes up, I will automatically get up and say hello - this has been laid down since childhood. If I say hello while sitting, then I show elementary disrespect. Now children say “hello” and “you” to adults, and I want our daughter to say “hello”, “ good morning", "Good evening".

We are talking with you, but with whom did Masha stay?

A .: Masha is now at home with Seryozha's parents - Natalya Mikhailovna and Vitaly Sergeevich. Masha was very lucky with her grandparents! For example, Vitaly Sergeevich always walks with her during the day. It just saves me, because in these three hours I manage to do everything both at home and at work.

S .: My parents literally dissolve in their granddaughter, and it seems to me that this is quite normal.

A .: They are the main fans of Masha. ( Smiling.)

But you can love a child that way.

S .: I can say about myself: my parents loved me very much in childhood, and now the situation is the same. Anya has the same thing, but it seems that we have turned out to be quite decent people. ( Smiling.)

Right. The film "After You" is released. What are your next joint plans?

A .: We shot another movie in November, which Seryozha fully produced. It's called "Rogue". Now we are finishing the installation.

Wow pace!

S: This is a movie about two young people. There was a serious casting, they were looking for young heroes. As a result, the main role was played by Denis Nurulin, a good guy, a fourth-year college student of Oleg Tabakov. And the second hero is Zhenya Kulik, also a very young actor, incredibly organic. It seems to me that our casting director got acquainted with all the novice actors in Moscow and St. Petersburg, visited all theatrical universities before we made our choice. And I have an episode there, literally three small scenes. I play the father and uncle of the protagonist at the same time - complete antipodes. It seems to me that they turned out to be very comedic characters! Our cinema is in the spirit of the picture "I'm walking around Moscow."

A .: "Youth is happy that it has a future" - this is Gogol said. And if you believe that everything will be fine, that everything is ahead, then you are still young, regardless of age. We made a movie about this state of mind.

Was your daughter with you on the set?

S .: Yes, she was given her own personal trailer. The film has a very limited budget, and Masha only person who had a rider.

This is genius! That is, she was born, as circus artists say, in sawdust.

S .: We can certainly be attacked now by those who believe that there is no need to carry such a small child, but it seemed to us that transferring her to artificial feeding and separating her from her mother would be much worse, and so she was in comfortable conditions, next to us, and no problem.

Moreover, we arranged the filming schedule so that Masha would feel good. Yes, and they shot the picture in a record short time, the whole process took less than a month, but post-production and the script are everything at home.

You are still great conspirators! Last spring, they called me to see the film After You right after the editing was completed. Then we talked for a long time, parted late in the evening, and the next day I unexpectedly receive a text message from you, Seryozha, that you had just signed. I offered to write about this news in OK!, and as a result, this was the first press report about your wedding.

S .: To be honest, Vadik, we did not want to advertise anything. But as a result, we decided to exclusively tell you about this as our friend, so that the terrible surrogate of rumors and gossip does not spill over into the press. And when Masha was born, I myself wrote about it on Instagram, again, to get ahead of the yellow editions.

By the way, I didn’t ask before: was the bride in a white dress, with a veil?

A .: Well, we decided not to disclose the details. ( Smiling.) I can say one thing for sure: at that moment we were very happy. We are old enough to not make big statements and at the same time appreciate everything that happens, and literally appreciate every day. Thanks to Seryozha... no, I won't finish. Although, under the spell of the fact that I communicate with you, Vadik, and not with another journalist, is ready to talk about Seryozha endlessly.

You can keep silent, Anechka, and everything is so obvious. Well, dear, congratulations on your first wedding anniversary! Love and new creative successes!

S: Thank you, Vadik. You yourself see that everything is so simple, good and calm with us, and there is a whole life ahead.

Photo: Ilya Vartanyan. Style: Polina Shabelnikova. Makeup: Anastasia Kirillova/Giorgio Armani Beauty. Hairstyles: Alexander Sukonshchikov/L'Oréal Paris