Finnish snipers of World War II. Myth or reality? Simo Häyhä - White Death. Mosin rifle M28
Finnish cuckoos.
According to the legends about the Finnish cuckoo snipers, these are magnificent masters of their craft, unsurpassed by anyone. These cuckoos, sitting on a tree, single-handedly stopped entire battalions. Some of them, already at that distant time, were armed with real machine guns with an optical sight. Not only professional soldiers and militias served in the cuckoo units, but even decrepit old women who were not much inferior to African macaques in climbing trees. These old women ate only breadcrumbs. Each old woman, climbing trees, had with her a whole bag of crackers and a whole bag of cartridges. With the last bag, she destroyed entire units of the Red Army. To fight the cuckoos, they mobilized Siberian hunters (apparently hunters from other regions were not capable of this.) Together with their dogs. The dogs were looking for these snipers: deftly avoiding the bullets with which the snipers tried to hit them (apparently dogs quickly dodge bullets), they pointed to the tree on which the cuckoo was sitting. After that, the cuckoo tree was shot from two to three light machine guns (a familiar weapon for Siberian hunters). All this seems ridiculous, if we forget that all this was driven into the head of the inhabitants by the Soviet and Russian press, which presented all this as the truth. In our country, legends have long been replacing history and it is unlikely that anything will change in the near future.
Below are excerpts from the text of my book The Finnish Gambit or the Role of the Soviet-Finnish War in the World Revolution. The book was published in Abakan in 2008 by the book publishing house "Brigantina". The volume of the book is 260 pages. The book is sold in the local history museum of Abakan, st. Pushkin 96. The copyright for the book is reserved. Using the text for commercial purposes without the consent of the author is punishable by law. The use of text is allowed with a link to the source.
The most famous legend of the Finnish war is the legend of the Finnish cuckoo snipers. I will not describe the exploits of the Finnish cuckoos myself. I will only quote some authors who have described their actions in a very colorful way.
“The forest, an ally of the Finnish warrior, gave rise to a feeling of horror among the Russians. “White Death” raged there - a Finnish “cuckoo” dressed in white camouflage. (“Trud-7”, December 2, 1999).
“Hammocks hung in pre-planned places, in pine crowns around forest glades, from which Finnish submachine gunners shot columns of Red Army soldiers that were visible at a glance.” (Magazine "Change", 1989, quotation from Taras's reader "The Soviet-Finnish War of 1939-1940" p. 53).
“Finnish snipers, who caused significant damage to the infantry, had to be faced from the very first days of hostilities. For their favorite manner of firing from trees, our fighters dubbed them "cuckoos". Sometimes, starting to “cuckoo”, such a cuckoo forced an entire company to lie in the snow. Go, guess where the sniper is shooting from - a big forest, and the booming echo of a shot rushing among the rocks and pines, only further confuses the path to the "nest". In the Soviet infantry there were taiga hunters - Siberians, who came up with an effective way to deal with forest snipers. The dogs came to the rescue. Launched in front of the shooting chain, the Siberian Husky, fearlessly maneuvering between the snow fountains of bullets, rested her front paws on the trunk and barked loudly. This meant: on top of the enemy. Two or three light machine guns immediately crossed the pine tree and pierced a thick crown up to a centimeter, leaving its inhabitant no chance ... ”(“ Requiem of the Karelian Swamps ”, Komsomolskaya Pravda, November 14, 1989, A. Chudakov).
In the same article, it is written that the Russians attacked with full-length machine-gun fire on the corpses of their comrades and fell to the ground only dead. It is described how Finnish machine guns cut one chain, and another went on the attack, and none of the Soviet soldiers lay down on the ground to escape Finnish bullets. And right there it is written how one sniper forced an entire company to lie down. But a sniper cannot inflict the same losses on an advancing group of soldiers as a group of machine gunners does. If heavy machine-gun fire cannot force the chains of Russian soldiers to lie down on the ground, then a single sniper will still not be able to do this. The author simply contradicts another description with one of his descriptions. In one place of the text, he wrote that groups of machine guns, beveling like a scythe, entire chains of Soviet soldiers, could not force them to lie down on the ground. Elsewhere in the same text, Chudakov wrote that a lone Finnish sniper forced an entire company to lie down in the snow. It turns out that mass losses could not scare the Soviet soldiers, and single ones drove entire units into a panic. It couldn't be! A natural question arises: where did the author lie?
“The Finns impressed with the accuracy of their shooting. Those who fought in this terrible war for the rest of their lives remembered the "cuckoos" - Finnish snipers, as a rule, from among the civilian population - hiding on top of trees and not letting whole battalions raise their heads. For shooting down the "cuckoo" without talking they gave the Order of the Red Banner, and even the Hero. Professional Siberian hunters with their huskies were urgently mobilized into the army, with whom they hunted for squirrel and sable. Their main task was to fight the "cuckoos".
They hit the cuckoos with guns, bombed the forest, set it on fire, because the cuckoo did not even let anyone lean out of the shelter. When the “cuckoo” was destroyed, very often it turned out to be a Finnish old woman sitting on a tree with a bag of crackers and a bag of cartridges. (Bunich “Operation Thunderstorm”. Error in the third character. p. 117).
There were such old women in Finland, not to sit on the stove, they climb trees, and even carry bags of crackers and cartridges with them. A sort of supergrandmother-Amazon - the Finnish version! In other countries, grandmothers sit on semolina, and give crackers to Finnish grandmothers. It's funny to you? I really! Just imagine how an old woman with a sniper rifle and two bags climbs a tree to sit on it, gnaw crackers and shoot at Russian soldiers. I have the impression that this text was written for humorists, but it ended up in a historical book.
I just don’t know who’s “cuckoo” is cooler, Bunich’s or Chudakov’s? Chudakov's "cuckoo" is a soldier - a professional who keeps a whole company lying on the ground. Bunich's "cuckoo" is an old woman who managed to make a whole battalion lie down. Moreover, Bunich, as well as Chudakov, describes how the Russian infantry went chest to machine guns, not paying attention to heavy losses. According to Bunich, our soldiers, attacking machine-gun positions, went literally to the slaughter and no losses could make them crawl or lie in the snow. And again, according to him, lone Finnish snipers kept entire battalions in a prone position. It looks like a ill-conceived lie. Here either our soldiers are insane and therefore climb with their chests on the bullets. Either our soldiers are cowardly and therefore even lone Finnish snipers manage to stop entire Soviet units. Bunich apparently decided not to choose one of these opposites, but to write them both in his text. He is ready to choose for his book everything that can disgrace the Red Army.
Some writers describe Finnish cuckoos using automata.
“The 69th Infantry Regiment was busy all day on March 12 eliminating snipers and machine gunners in the depths of the Musta-Saari forest.” (P. Aptekar "Soviet-Finnish Wars". p. 261). How hard was it for our soldiers to shoot down snipers and machine gunners from the trees all day?! It is a pity that the Apothecary does not specify whether among them there were grandmothers with bags of crackers and cartridges, or were they professional soldiers without any crackers there ?!
“In the coastal forest, teeming with snipers on every tree - that secret, hidden, invisible enemy - direct-fire shrapnel now whistled between the branches. The gun, brought by Savkin, hit point-blank through the forest. Shrapnel shook off layers of snow from the fir trees, cut boughs, knocked down, like apples, people wrapped in white with machine guns. (L. Sobolev "Sea Soul", p. 300). At Sobolev, Finnish snipers are already armed with machine guns !!! It turns out that the Finns then already had machine guns with an optical sight. And entire units were armed with just such weapons. It's not like Bunich has an old woman with a rifle and two bags, one of which is for crackers, the other for cartridges! Under the sniper machine, one bag of ammunition will not be enough! Probably Finnish sniper submachine gunners climbed trees, carrying several bags of ammunition with them. And apparently, old women were not taken to such units, since even Finnish old women will not be able to jump through trees with several bags of cartridges on themselves.
Perhaps it will be enough for me to cite as an example the myths about "warriors -" cuckoos "from among the old women deftly climbing trees with two bags and with a machine gun at the ready, it's time to cite serious statements as an example.
"... the stories about the Finnish snipers - "cuckoos" sitting on the trees have no basis." (Magazine "Rodina", No. 12, 1995. Juutilainen, article "White Finns", quotation from Taras' reader "Soviet-Finnish war. 1939-1940" p. 348).
“And not every Finnish sniper or machine gunner in ambush was a mythical cuckoo. For some reason, the Finns themselves still doubt the existence of these shooters sitting on a tree. (Lipatov "Winter War" quote from Taras's reader, p. 174).
“As O. Manninen wrote, the Finns themselves were surprised by the stories about the cuckoos. “No one has met such veterans [of the winter war] who would remember how they climbed trees. The Finnish soldier was ... an invariable individualist. He naturally took advantage of the variety of terrain, but it seems unlikely that a soldier could be forced to climb a tree, for he should always have been able to retreat. Climbing down the tree would take too long."
According to Finnish historians, “Finnish“ cuckoos ”existed mainly ... in Soviet official army documents and instructions, and from there“ flew ”to the pages of newspapers and books. The fact is that warnings about "cuckoos" appeared in Soviet military instructions as early as October 1939, before the Red Army invaded Finland. Perhaps the idea of placing Finnish snipers in the trees of the red commanders was suggested by the observation posts of the Finnish border guards, sometimes located in the trees. One way or another, but “the Finnish “cuckoo”, which would really sit on a tree, has not yet been met by anyone,” the Finns themselves emphasize. (Kozlov "Soviet-Finnish war 1939-1940. A look from the other side." Riga, 1995. Quote from Taras' reader "Soviet-Finnish war 1939-1940" p. 249).
Of course, the Finns used snipers. How successfully they did it is now hard to find out. "But of course, not a sniper - singles decided the fate of the battles." (Ibid., p. 250).
During the Soviet-Finnish war (1939-1940), Finnish sniper Simo Häyhä terrified our soldiers ( Simo Hayha) nicknamed "White Death". This shooter was incredibly accurate, even though he didn't even use a telescopic sight. Despite the fact that the sniper acted on the side of the enemy, he became a legend in army circles.
The future sniper was born in 1905 in the small village of Rautjärvi (not far from the modern border between Russia and Finland). The main occupation of the family was fishing and hunting. Upon reaching the age of 17 Simo Häyhä participated in several sniper competitions and won prizes. This was followed by service in the Finnish army.
With the outbreak of the Soviet-Finnish war in 1939, Simo Häyhä becomes a sniper. On the first day alone, Simo destroyed 25 soldiers, and two days later the score exceeded fifty. Due to active propaganda, the fame of the invincible Finn spread far beyond the front line. The Soviet government placed a bounty on Simo's head, and the sniper himself was dubbed the "White Death".
Simo Häyhä's height was only 1.61 m, which was an advantage in his craft. The sniper dressed in all white, which made him almost invisible in the snow. Simo could stay in position for several hours, waiting for the enemy. And this at temperatures from -20 ° C to -40 ° C. Preparing the ambush site, Simo compacted the snow so that it would not scatter to the sides during the shots, giving away his location. The sniper kept snow in his mouth so that there would be no steam when he exhaled. Simo was in a better position because he knew the area like the back of his hand.
But the most surprising thing is that the marksman did not use an optical sight. Firstly, Simo believed that the glare from the sun could give it away, and secondly, at very low temperatures, the lenses of the sight froze. The weapon used by the sniper is a Finnish modification of the Mosin M / 28-30. He also had a Suomi submachine gun and a Lahti salorant M-26 machine gun in his arsenal.
During the first 100 days of the Winter War, the Finnish sniper killed more than 600 people. A detachment of Soviet elite snipers was sent to capture Simo Häyhä. On March 6, 1940, the bullet nevertheless overtook the Finn and exited through the left cheek. The sniper was evacuated. He was in a coma for several days, and when he came to his senses, his shattered jaw was restored with a bone taken from his thigh.
Simo Häyhä asked to go to the front in 1941, but due to an injury he was refused. The Finnish sniper lived a long life (96 years). He was engaged in hunting, farming. When asked about the details of the Winter War, Simo said that he was doing his duty.
The Soviet troops, for their part, also did their duty. These demonstrate that women were no less important link in bringing victory closer than men.
The ideal weapon for Simo was the Finnish modification of the M/28 or M28/30 Mosin rifle. From it, the sniper destroyed most of the soldiers. He also masterfully owned the Suomi submachine gun and the Lahti salorant M-26 submachine gun, of which he eliminated almost 200 opponents.
A distinctive feature of the Finnish sniper was that he did not use a sniper scope. This was due to the fact that, firstly, the glare from the sight gave out a dislocation, and secondly, the glass of the sight used to freeze. In severe winter conditions, the sight thus lost its performance.
At his location, Simo rolled the snow crust, sometimes even filling it with water, so that the snow would not scatter from the shot, betraying the ambush site. In order to prevent him from being detected while hiding in a snowdrift, the Finnish sniper constantly chewed the snow. This technique is still successfully used by the Spetzazovites - due to the balancing of temperatures, the arrow does not give out steam from the mouth.
Stories about hundreds and thousands of snipers are, of course, an exaggeration. There is evidence that the entire Finnish army at that time was armed with only 200 sniper rifles. It would be more correct to say that a lot of shooters fought on the Finnish side, and not snipers in the strict sense of the word. These shooters were part of the divisions of the shutskor - structures akin to our people's militia. All these people were hunters before the war, in wooded Finland every man is a hunter. The Shyutskorovites built their “nests” on hills, in the attics of houses, and much less often in trees. They often worked in pairs. While one sat with a weapon in the “nest”, the other slept in a bunker arranged below, at the foot of a tree or somewhere nearby. If the "cuckoo" was spotted, and it became necessary to leave, the shooter slid off the barrel along the rope and hid in a shelter. It was not a problem for the Finns to go into the forest on skis. The entire population of Finland are excellent skiers, the Shutskor people were both at home in the forest, and legends about instantaneous disappearances were born. The stories about snipers chained to the trunks of pines were partly generated by Soviet propaganda, which had to somehow explain the effectiveness of the Finnish shooters, partly by the fact that sometimes the shooters actually insured themselves by tying themselves to the trunk with a rope or chain. "Bird talk" snipers - also from the category of myths. It is likely that the arrows gave each other some kind of signals, imitating bird calls, but since it was winter, they hardly used the calls of the cuckoo for this, the bird, as you know, is a migratory one.
For the entire period of the Soviet-Finnish war, only one officially documented episode of the destruction of the Finnish “cuckoo” sniper is known. It was January 3, 1940. Soldiers of the 1st company of the 1st battalion of the 4th border regiment shot down the shooter. He actually sat on a tree.
Remus 22-08-2005 22:40
In some old movie, a German machine gunner chained to something appeared. Once I was interested in such things in terms of the psychology of extreme situations. Everything in life is possible, but there was no reliable evidence.
bader 23-08-2005 18:25
Somewhere such a topic slipped that towards the end of the war such cases of chaining took place. I don’t know about the “cuckoos”, but I came across machine gunners in the literature. But I haven’t seen official confirmation anywhere, so it’s most likely nonsense, although .... in life, and even more so in war, anything can happen.
Mosinman 23-08-2005 21:50
The Germans practiced this even in the First World War. The idea is that first you will shoot yourself, and then, even if it comes to your mind to surrender, you will know that they will not be taken alive, because you have beaten a lot of people. Therefore, you will shoot to the end.
It seems that on the Zeelovsky Heights and the Dnieper, such machine gunners met.
ranger 02-09-2005 14:05
This is not bullshit. This is history. This was the case with the Germans in both wars and the Japanese. Moreover, even before 1941, and even in WW2 and even more so - and not only against us, but also on the islands against the amers.
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Shoot fast and think - you'll live longer... If you survive!
Sissy 18-09-2005 02:23
No, I can say quite officially that garbage. There were snipers, yes, but to a rock or a tree only if you are from a psychiatric ward. The Germans had their own grouping in Finland, but strictly under their command, and for example, their power was not extended to the Finns. It was strictly there, yes, there were many cases that German sentries fired on Finnish long-range detachments, and for this, as a rule, death followed the tribunal. In general, the Germans were poorly prepared for the warriors in these latitudes and therefore fought almost only trench battles and stood at the expense of their technical strength.
There were personal beds, yes, for example, the Finnish sniper Simo Häyhä, who had an account in the army of +500, according to some information, the exact 542 (in the Finnish army, only a partner or officer could be a witness), he used an open sight (I hope everyone understands) used at least 40 % of cases (it is worth saying that the melting in the forest is from 30-150m maximum). And it's not about cuckoos, but about the ability and choice of personnel, as a rule, loners worked. Legends were born later as well as after the First World War about German snipers.
ASlon 18-09-2005 02:35
Sissy
could you give a link (or advise other sources) with some information about this sniper. (Simo Hayha) You can even in Finnish .. I am fond of the history of the Winter War and the actions of the Finnish army in particular. I will be very grateful.
Sissy 18-09-2005 02:48
Yes, you don’t need links, just the name and surname Simo Häyhä, and then just choose the language, there are many links to English on it or on its statistics, there are opinions that there are no equals, but not Zaitsev, of course. There was no promotion for the whole world, and again, the score is not kept by soldiers, there is not enough smoke like that of fighters. If I'm short of time or too lazy, then I can sit, if there are wishes for languages, then write.
ASlon 18-09-2005 02:59
Sissy
I’m not very good with English, but I’ll try to search, there is a link by name, maybe you can indicate other sources with interesting (or little-known) facts on this issue. Really interesting.
Sissy 18-09-2005 03:07
Well, I forgot where I have it. Here is everything you need, at least according to statistics.
http://www.snipercentral.com/snipers.htm#WWII
ASlon 18-09-2005 03:26
Thanks a lot! Indeed As. Strange that I had never heard of him before.
Sissy 18-09-2005 03:32
And in Finland, few people know about it. This is how it says to an amateur / connoisseur / historian or for learning.
Sissy 18-09-2005 13:12
If he asks a male from 18-30 years old, then they know who they are talking about somewhere 50/50, but I’m already silent about the female part.
Remus 18-09-2005 23:15
Then all is not lost.
Legends naturally appear later. For different reasons. According to the archives, at the beginning of the war, the Finnish army had only about 200 rifles with optical sights. Naturally, I had to turn around. Simo Häyhä himself explained the work from an open sight very simply - you need to stick your head out less.
Sissy 02-10-2005 21:29
Yes, there are enough legends, but the brightest ones are about Lauri Törni and Simo Häyhä.
apple 03-10-2005 01:13
What CAVE IGNORANCE!!! The tale of the chaining of machine gunners (snipers ???, grenade launchers ???, radio operators ???, tankers ???, pilots ???, officers of the General Staff ???) really originates in WWI. Famous "children's" uniformologists Fred and Lillian Funken (republished from AST) suggested that the legend originates from the fact that members of the machine gun crews of the German army were equipped with wide leather belts with metal carbines, designed for emergency carrying of machine guns on the battlefield . And, they say, the soldiers found the killed enemy machine gunners and, based on these belts, they made a conclusion about chaining. I don’t know how the “chained” comrades are, but after such an outrage I wouldn’t shoot, but yelled until I was hoarse: “They are shissen!!! (French) captivity!!!" But everything is much more banal. WWI was not only the first world, but also the first ideological. Some lucky journalist came up with the idea, among other inventions about the atrocities of the enemy, to ascribe to the Germans such things! And I went for a walk through the pages of various "Russian invalids" and "Niv" another fairy tale ... In their hatred, people did not want to advance further than a convenient stamp. So "The Terrible Tale" is also mentioned by the Strugatskys, the historian Rodin attributed the "rite of chaining" to the Austro-Hungarians, the director Rodin made a film in which they chained (???) a sniper (???) "finnik" in a German uniform (??? ) SS troops (???) ...
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven!
Student 03-10-2005 02:51
Yeah .. One of the roots of such legends is misunderstandings, sort of like with a machine gun harness.
For example, in Krymskaya, the French press wrote that a Russian soldier is so patriotic and superstitious that he always carries a bag with his native land with him. In fact, this "land" was grated rye crackers - they fed disgustingly in the besieged city. And the legend of the native land still roams.
Sincerely, Student
Kalmar 10-10-2005 02:37
I agree that there is no point in chaining a sniper. He is a free hunter, a valuable fighter who will not be sacrificed. As for the machine gunner, it is quite possible at the request of the riveted. Like a kamikaze. To not be afraid.
apple 10-10-2005 22:16
quote: Originally posted by Kalmar:
I agree that there is no point in chaining a sniper. He is a free hunter, a valuable fighter who will not be sacrificed. As for the machine gunner, it is quite possible at the request of the riveted. Like a kamikaze. To not be afraid.On mobilization, many Finns came with their own rifles. There were not enough weapons for everyone in the army. Most are hunters. Perhaps that is why there were so many good snipers among the Finns. And civilians always have weapons of higher quality than army ones.
2. It is unlikely that army snipers were armed with their own rifles. After all, already from the middle of the 19th century, the best hunting samples were alterations of the army ones. For example, the famous "berdanka". Yes, a huge minus of mass weapons is low quality. But a giant plus is the mass production of ammunition.
Student 11-10-2005 13:16
A simple aspect - the chain can be interrupted by a bullet. And you can’t fight with the chain from the Admiralty anchor. Here it is, the reason.
Sincerely, Student
Kalmar 12-10-2005 12:18
quote: Originally posted by apple:1. Still not logical. If a sniper is not allowed, then why is it possible to weld a tanker in a tank or rivet a pilot to the skin of an aircraft? Why was it necessary to spend gigantic funds and efforts on maintaining the NKVD detachments, if it was possible to learn from the experience of German comrades and chain the minelayers themselves in the trenches? Why is it possible to bring up a heap of literature on kamikaze or selflessness in general, but nowhere in serious studies do they talk about chaining? Maybe because it didn't exist at all?
So after all, no one brought the facts. All this is at the level of rumors.
quote: 2. It is unlikely that army snipers were armed with their own rifles. After all, already from the middle of the 19th century, the best hunting samples were alterations of the army ones. For example, the famous "berdanka". Yes, a huge minus of mass weapons is low quality. But a giant plus is the mass production of ammunition.
But this, excuse me, is a historical fact. The Finns came with their rifles. Just like American contractors are in Iraq today. And their weapons are much more abrupt than the army ones. I myself have a weapon of higher quality and more expensive than the army. Read what weapons the forum users own. No army will run away. Just compare the quality of match weapons and army ones.
Student 12-10-2005 13:26
Gentlemen, Finland is an interesting country. With a modest military budget, there were many enthusiasts, there were also paramilitary organizations - shutskor and the women's "lotta-svard", and so they were also engaged in sports shooting. From military weapons, i.e. Mosinok. And the trunks were placed there not very simple, I mean sporting rifles. And they will be extremely stupid to argue that the sports Mosinka of a Shutskor shooter with a big name has worse accuracy than an army rifle. Meanwhile, a rifle could also be a prize at competitions, exactly the one with excellent barrel processing. And there is nothing strange if the owner or owner took their Mosinka to the front - the cartridge is the same, and the rifle itself is also an analogue of the army. At higher quality.
An analogy for the type of Soviet weapons - few people will compare the accuracy of 1891 \ 30 with AV or AVL. Although both are essentially Mosinka.
Sincerely, Student
Sergey-M 15-10-2005 16:50
Grandfather told. Before the war, they lived in a border village in western Ukraine. The bunkers of the Vladimir-Volyn UR, hastily built the day before, were located in the district. A couple of months before the start of the war, residents were evacuated hundreds of kilometers from the border, so as not to fall under the distribution. When the front line swept through them to the east and people returned to their village, in these same bunkers they found dead Red Army soldiers chained. The name of one of these hero-machine gunners now bears the local frontier post. Maybe a fable about chains, but I heard from several eyewitnesses of those events.
By the way, the outpost then held out for a day, but there is no information about the UR.
VOYAKA 20-10-2005 07:25
Student, excuse my ignorance, but it seems to me that chains are interrupted by a bullet only in films ... Moreover, as you put it, anchors ... Correct me if I'm wrong.
Sincerely.
apple 20-10-2005 15:32
Student, excuse my ignorance, but it seems to me that chains are interrupted by a bullet only in films ... Moreover, as you put it, anchors ... Correct me if I'm wrong.
Aha! That is, the problem is not whether this is a propaganda myth, but in the thickness of the chain? Well ... Also an option !!!
bucherets 20-10-2005 16:23
quote: Originally posted by VOYAKA:
... it seems to me that chains are interrupted by a bullet only in films ...
Here in this film the hero Ville Haapsalo just tried to do it. He didn't succeed.
And if you approach the matter purely practically, what is the use of chaining a sniper. With a machine gunner still back and forth, but here's a sniper? The essence of a sniper: shot once or twice - changed position. Otherwise, they will be discovered and destroyed. Those. a chained sniper simply won't shoot.
Student 20-10-2005 19:38
If a 7.62 rifle bullet calmly hits three or four millimeters of steel, then you can rivet the chain!
Another thing is that it will cut with fragments of the shell, and you can catch a ricochet. You can ... But it's better than the guaranteed death of the "chain sniper".
Sincerely, Student
pasha333 20-10-2005 19:39
Machine gunner - the same thing - if not from Ukrp. fire points - also fill up.
Well, what's the point? If they chain him up and he wants to survive anyway, it’s better to wave something white right away when they come up - there will be more chances to survive than to shoot to the last.
By the way, I re-read how many German sources I have never seen anything like ours or theirs. About the Japanese - yes, the Finns, in my opinion, too.